After the game I just wrote a quick post with the positives and the negatives of the game. I found this game to be an interesting tactical battle and so this article is dedicated to that aspect of the game.
I thought we started with a 4-2-3-1 formation but the two deep lying midfielders weren’t exactly in the destroyer mould. Liverpool looked like they were playing a 4-4-1-1 system. More than the formation though, I thought the mentality of the two teams was the noteworthy tactical point. Both teams came into the game with a lot of respect for the opposition and a cautious approach that was far more defensive than is usual.
I think it was understandable because Arsenal had the first choice central midfield missing and Liverpool haven’t had a great pre-season under a new manager. Going all guns blazing in such a game when both teams had some good finishing talent could have been disastrous. Some fans don’t realize that a team cannot be perfect in all games but most others will see that it was the right move.
Sometimes people feel that changing the formation or making substitutions are the only important tactical changes a manager can make. This game showed us that keeping your midfielders five yards deeper than usual or restricting their freedom and such other decisions also make a big tactical difference.
In Diaby and Wilshere we had two midfielders who like to dwell on the ball and don’t mind taking people on. Dribbling is an admirable skill in the attacking areas but when you are playing so close to the defence it can be a real concern. I thought both these players did well, especially Diaby who was playing without any match practice at all. He found an Arsenal player with 50 out of his 52 passes.
Wilshere made a few mistakes, most notably the blunder that cost the goal, but considering the fact that he is just a 18 year old we cannot be too harsh on him. Having said that, I do believe he will have to improve a lot will perhaps benefit if he is allowed to play in a more advanced role.
Nonetheless, both showed a great deal of restraint and composure,which enabled us to maintain our defensive shape for large parts of the game.
In some ways their life was made easier by the fact that Liverpool gave us too much space in the first half. That was very unlike the hosts and under Benitez we would never have seen that much time on the ball. I don’t know whether Hodgson said something before the second half or not but they did come out and pressed the ball much higher up the pitch. Immediately, Arsenal found it difficult to move the ball around and conceded a few set-pieces. If Liverpool had done this for the whole of the first hour the game might have been completely different.
Given their lack of pre-season training and the fact that they were playing with 10 men it was clear that Liverpool will have to drop deep eventually. It happened around the hour mark and combined with the introduction of Walcott and Rosicky it gave us the impetus we needed.
In the first hour we never really threatened. Part of it was down to the fact that our midfield was playing at a much slower tempo and the hosts also wanted to keep the pace of the game in control. While Wilshere and Diaby did well in terms of maintaining possession and the defensive shape, they didn’t really offer much in terms of off the ball movement and quick passing. I don’t mean it as a criticism. I think it was a tactical decision by Wenger to play the first hour with caution.
The other part of this problem was the inefficacy of Eboue and Arshavin on the wings. They neither offered genuine width, nor did they make any meaningful runs down the middle. The movement of Walcott and the passing of Rosicky made the final half hour much more interesting. It was also a period when Arsenal moved the ball faster.
This can be seen from the following chalkboard image. On top is the passing chart for Nasri in the first hour and below it you can see Little Mozart’s passing in the final 30 mins of game.
I’m not trying to say that Nasri was poor, he was not. But during the first hour when he was playing in an advanced midfield role there weren’t many options in front of him. Arshavin was sleeping in some corner, Eboue was having one of his days, and Chamakh was struggling all on his own. Nasri was forced to pass sideways or backwards even from advanced positions.
In contrast, when Rosicky came on, he had Chamakh, RvP, Walcott, and Arshavin in front of him. During this period Nasri did the job of a holding midfielder. I’m not including his passing details for the final 30 mins but if you look at his chart it is similar to what we see from Denilson. Plenty of neat little sideways passes about ten yards inside the opposition half. It allowed us to maintain possession and spread the play.
It’s also worth noting that Rosicky completed 34 out of his 36 passes and Nasri completed 31 out of 33 in the final half hour. That is more than a pass a minute, which is pretty much in the Xavi class. Clearly, the tempo was far higher during this period, although you could say that, at least, the sideways passes were easier as Liverpool sat deep.
I’d mentioned in the post match article that Rosicky was my man of the match and it’s easy to see why. Not only did he have an exceptional passing rate and accuracy, most of his passing was going forward. He also created our best chance and almost scored a cracker.
Arsene is often criticized for being too attacking but this game shows he does take a different approach at times. It could have been a better result for us had we not conceded the stupid goal. Liverpool created nothing with the ball on the ground except that goal.
I’d go so far as to say that the hosts were playing like a mid-table side. There were far too many long balls and there was no intent to move the ball around. It’s not surprising that Joe Cole struggled in this game (only 8 passes, 7 successful in 45 min). For their sake, the scousers will have to hope that it was down to early season fitness issues and the fact that the team is still adapting to a new manager. I can’t see them fighting for a top four spot with such tactics as they will barely get results at home and will really struggle away from home. Anyway, we’ll see how they play in the coming weeks, no point dwelling on it.
Arsenal will need to do much better in the coming weeks. I’m confident that once we have the big guns back the midfield we will look far more threatening and Wenger won’t have to ask his players to hold back. It could happen as early as this weekend with Blackpool at the receiving end.












Good post.i have always maintained that lil mozart is very direct unlike nasri who takes fewer risks.i also want to point out that the 4-2-3-1 doesn’t suit AA at all since he is often too deep and will be required to track back alot since in defense it becomes sort of a 4-4-1-1.i think the best way to integrate him is a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-1-3 which i think we’ll use once cesc and rvp are back in the fold.it was also interesting to see how chamakh’s movement resulted to reina’s gift;he darted in from the right like a ghost unnoticed.i see him playing slightly to the right in between the lb and lcb like fabiano does for brazil making darting runs to near or far post depending on the crossing position.cheers!
I think Nasri can play a more direct game but tends to hold his attacking instincts back. Maybe due to lack or experience or due to instructions from the manager. He certainly has the speed of thought and technique to do much better.
I think Arshavin is sometimes in a no man’s land. But he certainly has a free role and doesn’t drop deep that often so he should use it better.
Good Post (y)
I Also Thort Rosiky Was More Of A Threat Going Foward Than Nasri.
But In The Future Games i Would Like To See 2 Stikers
Instead Of One, This Would Also Help Van Persie Stay Injury Free because Of Less Work To Do!
I have mentioned a 4-2-1-3 above which reminds me i saw recent articles on Marca which were describing formations mou used in training.they were 4-2-1-3,4-2-3-1 and one involving a 3 man defence which i assume will be used when they are chasing the game.now they’ve got özil you can see how these formations are tailor made for the types of players mou has.it will be interesting for barca since mou has got probably the best and most complete squad i’ve ever seen.
It will be interesting to see how mourinho plays. I saw a few minutes against Bayern and the team was really sitting back with 10 men in their own half. Even Benzema was halfway inside his half. It will be interesting to see if Madrid crowd tolerates a defensive game.
Thanks for the write up! Interesting to look at. While I found Nasri an active and feisty player to watch, he did seem forced to retreat or simply move the ball sideways in non-incisive ways, which your graphs confirmed for me. I hope Czech the Technique stays fit and has the season we’ve all hoped for since he arrived!
Hey there DG, great post as always with some insightful comments. I think that Nasri did as best as he could given that Arshavin an Eboue often didn’t provide him with a viable option from wide areas and when they did come insdide too often they went together and blocked each others space. I was impressed with how Nasri managed to retain the ball, even under pressure and this bodes well for the future. Chamakh had little support but I was disappointed with his first touch and too often he was unable to win headers from long passes but hopefully he will improve with time. I think he will be a great addition. Wilshire played in a rather inhibited way and I would like to see the breakdown of his range of passing throughout the game. Too often he didn’t use the long ball to switch play quickly even if the option was there and perhaps this was to do with cofidence. I agree that Wenger may have asked Diaby to play in a more defensive role and I was impressed but he really need to pass the ball more quickly. That role is not just about protecting the back four but also helping to hasten the pace of our game by making short and quick passes. Am concerned that without Fabregas we lacked that killer final ball, and am disappointed that Ozil has joined Madrid as I really felt he has the skill to help us compensate for Fabregas’s loss both in the short term due to injury and in the long term when he leaves. Surely wuld have been worth the money as we could have let him settle this year before taking over next year when Fabregas leaves. Keep up the good work!
Ramsey.
right,ramsey will step up if cesc leave..
Agree with you, Nasri did really well to hold possession.
Chamakh was really without support and the balls to him were not in the channels. Arsenal will have to work on this. Liverpool used the channels well, if we just kick it high and down the middle the striker can’t do much on his own.
I think Diaby passes it slower because he wasn’t fit enough to last long at a higher tempo. Also the off the ball movement wasn’t that good so passing automatically becomes slower. The final ball also depends a lot on the movement and options up front. In the first hour we didn’t stretch their defence in any way.
In the past I’ve said that Wilshere is just like Ozil and we don’t really need Ozil because Wilshere will be just as good in a year or two. We also have Ramsey, not to mention Nasri and Rosicky.
I watched only the first half but I noticed Liverpool were playing like a mid-table team almost straight away.Their first attempt on goal came in the 44th minute (I think).Only long balls and they looked really poor.Lets say its fitness for now and wait to see what happens.I said before that Hodgson`s teams (at least fulham lol) start slowly so we will see.Spurs and City are better than them and of course Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd.It can change eventually but they have to raise their game.I also want to talk about Diaby.He looked very good in the first half considering he was injured 3-4 days before the match, hasnt played any pre-season games and did not play as box-to-box midfielder.Probably he played well because the opposition(joe cole) was not good enough.People criticizing him about inconsistency know nothiing.Last season apart from the last 5-6 games (where he was one of the worst players), he was great most of the time and one of our most important players.I think it was in january when he had three games in a row where he was absolutely outstanding.Then he got a small injury and missed the game against man utd.He just turned 24.He is improving gradually and it is for all to see.Recently he said in an interview that he is paying more and more attention to his health which goes to show he is maturing.Apart from Messi and Higuain ( may I add Nadal) who were perfect at the age of 20 , very few are consistent so young.Fabregas turned out to be as good as we expected only last season at 23.Over the years you can all notice that the attacking players who Wenger trusts and develops turn out to be world class(at least while playing for Arsenal) when they get to 25-26 years old.Diaby is one of them.The nucleus of the team is aged between 18 and 24 and these players have been making a huge progress in the last two seasons.In conclusion , I can bet my house that Arsenal will have won at least 3 trophies by 2014.
I agree with you faith in the squad. We need to keep it together. I think in the past whenever the squad seemed to be moving forward we lost a couple of key players.
I think the first half showed that Aw may take cautious approach in bigger games in future.when our attack finally clicks and we have our defensive plan sorted i believe we can go into big games and get results.if we can hold the ball and with rvp and cesc penetration we will be much better.
Yes it’s important to have some balance to the play. We’ve struggled with the right balance of defence and attack. hopefully, this year it will be better.
Nasri is very much like Hleb with his possession, but he’s a much better finisher. In that advanced role you need a risk taking passer, Rosicky is that person if Fabregas is not on the pitch. The problem with Arsenal is sometimes they think the defense will always open up eventually, but sometimes you must try the spectacular in order to break down the back 4 (or 8 as it mostly is when teams play against Arsenal).
I really don’t think the 4-3-3 works in the EPL as a possession formation. You see Chelsea use it as a counter attacking formation, but Barcelona had problems with Inter because Inter got back and defended…Teams aren’t afraid of sitting back and defending against Arsenal in the EPL because they know it’s the only way they’ll get a result. In La Liga the play is much more open so Barcelona get away with it. Arsenal also made the mistake of trying to play with Barcelona and they destroyed us.
I think we can do well enough possession wise when we have three first choice midfieders, RvP, and our full backs available.
Our problems seems to be in the shape we have when we do lose possession. Inevitably, someone or the other makes a mistake.
I see most teams switching to 5 midfielders because it allows you to control the centre better. Now that teams have wingers who can attack, create, score, and defend (Walcott?, Malouda, Valencia, et al) and central midfielders who can score as many as strikers (Cesc, Lampard, Gerrard) they will rarely use two out and out strikers.
Most teams will defend, especially in England. We just have to live with that. But when our main players are fit we seem to do well even against tight defences.
Out of all the things you said I think the most noticeable for me was the slow tempo. I think that with a fully fit team we could dominate the top teams using a slow tempo. Like you said, the wings were a disappointment and the midfield was makeshift at best. Add in Songs steel, either Diabys drive or Nasris/Denilsons ball possesion plus vital penetration from Fabregas(I think Nasri or Rosicky could easily do the job if they had the right players around them) and the wingers. I know you dont like Van Persie on the right but you will find that him and Chamakh will cross over often as Van Persie drifts to the left and Chamakh drifts to the right. I cant wait for our first game where we ‘click’. Those are the games I live for.
Yeah Chamakh could start in the same way Bendtner did last year. And they can change intermittently.
If you see the Rosicky chance that Reina brilliantly saved, RvP played a big role in that. It’s those kind of things that make him so important centrally. Very few strikers have that kind of a touch in such a confined space. It’s similar to his assist against Wolves last year. These things tell me it would be criminal if RvP spent a lot of time on the wings.
Exactly the reason why i want RVP to be our striker rather than Chamakh . I got slated for this idea earlier in this site, there is no better center forward than RVP for Arsenal. Anyways you cannot score with your head if you are always tracked by two defenders , for Chamakh to be effective he needs to attack the ball , to attack the ball he needs space that he will get when coming in from right or when we play with two strikers. If you see our goal, with RVP on only one CB could mark Chamakh he made a meal of one. RVP can handle 2 CBs , it is not about the size it is about technique to split those two or at least pull them everywhere. I do not know why people think central striker has to be the biggest person in the field.
Another good post…my opinion is diaby should improve his decision making…he had the ball for nearly 20 seconds at a moment in the match but ended up with a poor pass to sagna which resulted in the latter shouting at diaby…i still believe we can win the league… Good luck desi…
good post…
now feeling much better abt our 1st match perf
here is why Rosicky was the man of the match
I’ve been saying for ages:Arsene/Arsenal take too many passes and overplay.You watched the Liverpool goal. They don’t waste time trying to thread their way thru to the box. Anyway they were helped by the porous gunner defence.
In contrast the Liverpool defence was always packed around the box even before Cole was sent off.If Arsenal are to challenge Arsene shd know other teams don’t overpass.
Finally if Arsenal play the same way against Chelsea and MU,I am 90 % sure they will get beaten even with a new gk.
Yes more shots from outside the box.
Clichy and Vermaelen had a crack which was encouraging.
Glad ppl recognized rosicky’s controbution. I thought he was fantastic in that game. He was a real driving force. He was tricky, elegant, and effective and deserved a goal. Only problem is his pretty light weight and if ref doesnt protect him, then wed have a problem. Anyways hope he keep up the good work. Btw check this site out too, http://www.arsenaltactics.com
one more thing I would like to add to ur analysis. Notice how Rosicky in his 30 min spread the ball wide to the full backs in advanced positions WAAAAY more than Nasri. I was watching Match of the day two and they were right about Arsenal not getting the ball wide to the fullbacks in advanced positions that often. thats why there were not many dangerous crosses for chamakh to attack:S
I think that was because in the first hour the full backs stayed deeper as we were playing with caution. In the last half hour liverpool sat so deep that our full backs could easily push forward.
May be, but I watched the match twice and Nasri was keeping the ball for a bit too long when the full backs were actually open on 4 different occasions before the introduction of Rosicky. while Rosicky gets 1 2 or 3 touches and then passes it, keeping the ball moving. but Nasri wasn’t as bad as Diaby :S anyways, one more question, where did you get the graph of the comparison between Rosicky’s passes vs Nasri’s ???? which website? I like these kind of stuff
I agree with you that Nasri did keep the ball on occasions. I think it could be because the movement up front wasn’t that good, although in general Rosicky does pass faster. Sometimes that puts us in trouble sometimes its the right thing. Difficult to say one is better than the other solely on that.
I made this chart using Guardian Chalkboards. BTW are you the guy who did those Rosicky compilations? Great work and many thanks if it was you.
based on your comment I decided to checj MOTD. There were certainly many chances for Nasri when he didn’t play the ball out wide.
I think it could be because we are not really a crossing team. I believe crossing is one of the most inefficient forms of attack and a more english approach. continental teams don’t rely on it that often. Perhaps Nasri didn’t think it will be very useful. Especially with only one target in the box against 3-4 defenders
hahahaha how did u know that?
yes I am. I followed a link of my video to this article 
u seem to put a lot of work on these articles and it shows 
I just like Rosicky’s mentality a LOT hahaha)
its AMAZING
great job btw
and yeah, I guess Rosicky and Nasri do have 2 different styles, doesn’t make one better than the other (although I kinda disagree
crosses are not necessarily won by tall players. it all depends on the pace, height of the cross and the players movements in the box. sometimes when teams are defending so deep and in large numbers, it does help to put the ball in the box in a dangerous area and hope that it’ll fall to an arsenal player. Arsenal shouldn’t depend on it, they just need to try it from time to time at least.
and thanks for the Guardian Chalkboards site
I saw your email and it reminded me of the channel on youtube. It’s aaaa unique name
I enjoy getting into the details of the game and talking about it. Can’t really stand generalized talk about football.
And thanks
I agree that crosses are not necessarily won by tall players. But, as you said, the key is to have more players in the box. Towards the end we always had 3 or 4 in the box while in the first hour we just had one. It will be an important tool to break down parked buses.
I enjoy Chalkboards but be careful not to rely on it too much as it isn’t 100% accurate. I use it more as an indicative guide.
hahaha thanks
I’m all about details ;P I like rating stuff from 1 to 100 or use decimals if its from 1 to 10
so Rosicky against Liverpool was 8.9
although he only played 30 mins hehehe
I didn’t know they show my email to others :S I think it is the reason why Nasri didn’t play it wide that much. both teams were cautious in the first half. and no worries, I will only use the chalkboard graphs and statistics for fun
and I might use them in arguments
Wow I gotta find a solution to my addiction to smiley faces :S
Your email is only visible to the blog owner i.e. yours truly
Chalkboards are a good way to back up some observations from the game. Have fun.
Thanks for a good analysis. I’ve recently added you as the third Arsenal blog on my RSS feed (had some options but chose this for the tactical pluses).
I’m a bit surprised that some comments to this blog go back to saying “this player can/can’t do this and that” when obviously you were pointing to team tactics that they respected.
I’m interested in the psychological tactics of team sports. It was very evident that Hodgson wanted Liverpool to play it safely in the first half, and will for the first games of the season anyway, with their new relationship and system. Basics first.
But I guess Hodgson and Liverpool caught us with our trousers down in the beginning of the second! One of my favourite tactical tricks to see (although not that much on Sunday…) is the kind of “shock them when they think we retreat” thing. Pressing high when just gone down to ten men confuses the opposition. I think that’s what led to Clichy’s, Wilshere’s and Nasri’s mistake. I haven’t seen the replay so don’t kill me if I got me something wrong.
Barcelona did that thing to us in the start of the first play off, too. It wasn’t just that they were good – they didn’t show ANY expected “normal” wariness playing away at the start and left our own guns sell-shocked. (You could see that they overdid it on purpose when they got tired later.) And I guess Mourinho did the same to Barca later.
Anyway, I’ll be following the blog, thanks.
Thanks.
That surprise tactic is a good option. It’s quite possible that Arsenal were caught out because of that. Sometimes mentally players just assume it will be easier and that can lead to a fatal mistake.
I think the way Barca play they always do a lot more in the first hour. Normally, they score 3 or 4 in that period and tire the others down as well. In La Liga I’ve seen them concede quite a few late goals when they run out of steam.
PS. That’s the one thing that I wish Arsene had, or someone in his staff had. I feel we don’t cause enough confusion in the opposition by surprising them time to time.
I love the Arsenal Way to play, though.
Yes we tend to get predictable and I think that’s the reason Chelsea and United find it easier against us. We can do with an element of surprise to force a mistake from the opposition.
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Great post Desi! An excellent analysis!
I wonder if (when we have Song back) we could work a 4-4-1-1 with RVP playing in the hole.
RVP has always struck me as a hybrid of sorts between a playmaker and a striker (much like Dennis). If he is given license to roam just behind the main striker (Chamakh), I think he might be very difficult to track and cause all sorts of problems.
OTOH, the 4-2-3-1 we played showed some great solidity, particularly as we were without our main DM.
I’ve always felt that this should be the lineup against the ‘tougher’ opposition, particularly as Song (for all his great attributes) is slow in pace and could do with the area around him compressed a little.
Either way, I’d actually like to see Fabregas sitting back a little and close to Song, giving him a bit of extra time and space to pick out his passes, rather than the more forward position with his back more to goal.
Admittedly of course he has scored a heap in that position last season but I think it might be even more productive for us having him sit deeper since we now have the very real possibility of playing a Chamakh/RVP combination.
My rambling. Your thoughts?
I did consider that formation quite often but I’m not sure what we will do with Arshavin in that case. I can’t see him as a left sided midfielder in a 4 man midfield. He just won’t have the discipline. The only option would be for Van Persie to drop deep quite often. It’s a formation we can use in some games, especially if Arshavin is out injured.
I’m really looking forward to how Wenger uses such a talented bunch. It will be a big learning experience for all students of the game.
great post…..
imo, arsenal did ok for me in that match…
they just not lucky to conceed a goal like that…
diaby looked not familiar with CDM role, sometime he lose the ball..
wilshere still not have enough experience to start in a big match like this, but i have no doubt that he’ll be our next fabregas…
chamakh needs time, but i like his courage to challenge the ball in the air…
sagna and clichy needs to improve their crossings…
nasri looks better as side midfielder or winger…
the entrance of TR7, walcott and RvP change the tempo of the game, good substitution made by wenger….
It’s a shame that the doom mongers don’t appreciate the substitutions when they make a big difference. They always use the substitutions as a means of criticizing Wenger!
they’re only fools to criticizing wenger.i have no doubt that wenger is one of the best manager.he built arsenal with youngsters and attractive football game.there are no teams that give more chances to youngsters than arsenal.clichy, fabregas, ramsey, wilshere.despite of giving the youngsters chance, we still in the top four.i hope wenger stays for another 10 years, longer is better like fergie.hopefully arsenal can be the champion this season.in arsene we trust.
Excellent blog – THE most informative and objective arsenal site out there. I’ve been wondering for a while now, where do you get all the details (charts etc) that you use for your (excellent) analysis?
Keep up the great work!!
Thanks. This particular chart is from the Guardian Chalkboards. I also use a lot of data from soccernet, telegraph, premier league, and other websites.